Comments on: Well Steve Jobs, I think you got me http://applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/ Writing about design, the user experience, web technologies, and the latest happenings on our online world. Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:17:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: metavurt http://applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/comment-page-1/#comment-69 metavurt Thu, 18 May 2006 18:25:23 +0000 http://www.applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/#comment-69 <p>Donovon... time to WAKE UP.</p> <p>What you continue to fail to mention in your comparisons is the software that comes WITH the hardware which the lame world that is Windows cannot include, except of course, for a small fee. And a new driver. And a new video card. And maybe a better sound card. Oh DAMN, your price is up again!</p> <p>I don't have the time to research that lame site www.dell.com to argue, but I do know of people who do: http://www.systemshootouts.org</p> <p>They compare laptops to desktops and include comparing what's IN the box too. Remember, it's not just the hardware that counts, gotta have some intelligence with that nice bod, if you know what I mean.</p> <p>Ryan, calculate how much time you've spent "fixing" your machine. Multiply that by how much money you would have made, had you been creating something.</p> <p>Nuf said.</p> Donovon… time to WAKE UP.

What you continue to fail to mention in your comparisons is the software that comes WITH the hardware which the lame world that is Windows cannot include, except of course, for a small fee. And a new driver. And a new video card. And maybe a better sound card. Oh DAMN, your price is up again!

I don’t have the time to research that lame site http://www.dell.com to argue, but I do know of people who do: http://www.systemshootouts.org

They compare laptops to desktops and include comparing what’s IN the box too. Remember, it’s not just the hardware that counts, gotta have some intelligence with that nice bod, if you know what I mean.

Ryan, calculate how much time you’ve spent “fixing” your machine. Multiply that by how much money you would have made, had you been creating something.

Nuf said.

]]> By: Nick Shaff http://applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/comment-page-1/#comment-68 Nick Shaff Thu, 18 May 2006 18:25:05 +0000 http://www.applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/#comment-68 <p>Allen, check out the previews of the new version of flash coming out. Looks amazing on the max. Great speed.</p> <p>Ryan, Congrats on the decision to at least use both ;) I've been a major mac geek all my life, but I do use both. The PC pretty much does my gaming and website testing (getting better at the XHTML/CSS aka correct way, so maybe wont have to use it for that long). The mac does all my design and development work, and runs all my test servers. When you look at them, check out the iMacs as well (a lot cheaper, but still running a single G5). Or even wait for the Powerbook G5 inevitability ;)</p> Allen, check out the previews of the new version of flash coming out. Looks amazing on the max. Great speed.

Ryan, Congrats on the decision to at least use both ;) I’ve been a major mac geek all my life, but I do use both. The PC pretty much does my gaming and website testing (getting better at the XHTML/CSS aka correct way, so maybe wont have to use it for that long). The mac does all my design and development work, and runs all my test servers. When you look at them, check out the iMacs as well (a lot cheaper, but still running a single G5). Or even wait for the Powerbook G5 inevitability ;)

]]> By: Allan White http://applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/comment-page-1/#comment-67 Allan White Thu, 18 May 2006 18:24:42 +0000 http://www.applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/#comment-67 <p>One reason I "switched" back from XP was the great OS and the awesome apps that are just so fun and powerful. I feel like this platform is really moving somewhere. The *nix tools are cool, too.</p> <p>Stable, solid, secure. And fun! Much happier on OS X. (except for Flash development, the one sore spot IMHO).</p> One reason I “switched” back from XP was the great OS and the awesome apps that are just so fun and powerful. I feel like this platform is really moving somewhere. The *nix tools are cool, too.

Stable, solid, secure. And fun! Much happier on OS X. (except for Flash development, the one sore spot IMHO).

]]> By: Richard http://applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/comment-page-1/#comment-66 Richard Thu, 18 May 2006 18:24:17 +0000 http://www.applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/#comment-66 <p>You have two choices: 1] Chevy/Dodge = Windows XP or 2] Acura/BMW = Mac OS X</p> <p>Step up or step down...Pay now or pay later...it's that simple. :.)</p> <p>R</p> You have two choices: 1] Chevy/Dodge = Windows XP or 2] Acura/BMW = Mac OS X

Step up or step down…Pay now or pay later…it’s that simple. :.)

R

]]> By: Donovan http://applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65 Donovan Thu, 18 May 2006 18:23:51 +0000 http://www.applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/#comment-65 <p>Shane, I'm sorry, but you are wrong. I priced out an Apple G5 PowerPC and a PC from ElitePC (I would have found each individual part before, but I lack the time). The Apple is the default configuration aside from the Geforce 6800 Ultra DDL. The whole system is priced at $3420.</p> <p>The only major differences with the ElitePC is the Radeon X800 XT (a generation ahead of the 6800 and more expensive) and no dual processors, just Athlon 64 3800+ with 800MHz FSB. The ElitePC is a mere $2089 (can't link to the exact configuration, www.elitepc.com). Even if one were to get a dual CPU capable motherboard along with two equivalent (2.6Ghz) processors, the price would not break $2500. That's with a far superior video card. Macs are expesnive. You can't get around that. Their laptops are slightly better. But one thing I will give them, they make high quality parts at least from my experiences. I love their monitors, CRTs and LCDs.</p> Shane, I’m sorry, but you are wrong. I priced out an Apple G5 PowerPC and a PC from ElitePC (I would have found each individual part before, but I lack the time). The Apple is the default configuration aside from the Geforce 6800 Ultra DDL. The whole system is priced at $3420.

The only major differences with the ElitePC is the Radeon X800 XT (a generation ahead of the 6800 and more expensive) and no dual processors, just Athlon 64 3800+ with 800MHz FSB. The ElitePC is a mere $2089 (can’t link to the exact configuration, http://www.elitepc.com). Even if one were to get a dual CPU capable motherboard along with two equivalent (2.6Ghz) processors, the price would not break $2500. That’s with a far superior video card. Macs are expesnive. You can’t get around that. Their laptops are slightly better. But one thing I will give them, they make high quality parts at least from my experiences. I love their monitors, CRTs and LCDs.

]]> By: Sebastian Kuehn http://applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/comment-page-1/#comment-64 Sebastian Kuehn Thu, 18 May 2006 18:23:31 +0000 http://www.applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/#comment-64 <p>Hello,</p> <p>I brought an iBook G4 12" one year ago. Today I can say: "It was the best decision I ever made !" Apple makes the most advanced computer in the world. The performance is incredible - my mac is as fast as on the first day. In my opinion there will be just two kinds of people in the future: those who use computers and those who use Apple !</p> <p>Kind regards from Germany !</p> <p>Sebastian > Mac fanatic ;-)</p> Hello,

I brought an iBook G4 12″ one year ago. Today I can say: “It was the best decision I ever made !” Apple makes the most advanced computer in the world. The performance is incredible - my mac is as fast as on the first day. In my opinion there will be just two kinds of people in the future: those who use computers and those who use Apple !

Kind regards from Germany !

Sebastian > Mac fanatic ;-)

]]> By: Mark Wiens http://applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/comment-page-1/#comment-63 Mark Wiens Thu, 18 May 2006 18:23:12 +0000 http://www.applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/#comment-63 <p>"I recently met a developer that used mac sucessfully for developing XHTML/CSS, proving it can be done."</p> <p>To whom are you referring here? ;o)</p> “I recently met a developer that used mac sucessfully for developing XHTML/CSS, proving it can be done.”

To whom are you referring here? ;o)

]]> By: ryan http://applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/comment-page-1/#comment-62 ryan Thu, 18 May 2006 18:22:45 +0000 http://www.applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/#comment-62 <p>Wow, After all these great stories, I'm going to switch as soon as I can afford to. These will go a long way in convincing my wife too. :)</p> <p>Having both would be good for me. Maybe Apple will release an iPC? Maybe they could call it an iBM?</p> Wow, After all these great stories, I’m going to switch as soon as I can afford to. These will go a long way in convincing my wife too. :)

Having both would be good for me. Maybe Apple will release an iPC? Maybe they could call it an iBM?

]]> By: tom http://applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/comment-page-1/#comment-61 tom Thu, 18 May 2006 18:22:20 +0000 http://www.applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/#comment-61 <p>There will be hurdles to overcome, though. The main problem when developing with CSS is IE/Win, which you won't have direct access to (there are probably ways around it, but not as easy as on a PC). That's one thing that's keeping me from switching, anyway. Most of my target audience will be Windows and Windows browsers, so the site damn well better look perfect there. Any then I can use iCapture or something for the other 3% of my audience.</p> There will be hurdles to overcome, though. The main problem when developing with CSS is IE/Win, which you won’t have direct access to (there are probably ways around it, but not as easy as on a PC). That’s one thing that’s keeping me from switching, anyway. Most of my target audience will be Windows and Windows browsers, so the site damn well better look perfect there. Any then I can use iCapture or something for the other 3% of my audience.

]]> By: Joshua http://applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/comment-page-1/#comment-60 Joshua Thu, 18 May 2006 18:21:55 +0000 http://www.applestooranges.com/blog/post/well-steve-jobs-i-think-you-got-me/#comment-60 <p>When it was time to upgrade my computer, I faced a similar dilemma. I've been an avid gamer for many years now, and was finally tired of dumping money into video cards, among other things. I decided instead to gravitate to console gaming, and use the computer for other things, and to downsize the computer (size). I deliberated about the Powerbooks for quite some time, but my gaming side eventually won out, and I went with a more powerful HP.</p> When it was time to upgrade my computer, I faced a similar dilemma. I’ve been an avid gamer for many years now, and was finally tired of dumping money into video cards, among other things. I decided instead to gravitate to console gaming, and use the computer for other things, and to downsize the computer (size). I deliberated about the Powerbooks for quite some time, but my gaming side eventually won out, and I went with a more powerful HP.

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